Jerome thought it would be a good idea to recycle this thread, and I think so too. / You Know
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IS THE WATCHTOWER A FALSE PROPHET?
by You Know inwhen jesus was on earth the devil approached him quoting scripture in order to tempt and entrap him.
it is no wonder then that the apostate angel would be behind the effort to use the scriptures against jehovahs people today in order to mislead them.
one of the most cunning and effective uses of scripture against us by satans agents is the charge that we are false prophets.
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Bush considering use of Tactical Nuclear Weapons
by Elsewhere ini placed this news article in the "mental health & depression" area because bush must be crazy!.
report: nuclear weapons policy review names potential targets.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/us/03/09/nuclear.weapons/index.html.
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Here's a related thread from a couple of months back: >>> http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=23284&site=3
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Bush considering use of Tactical Nuclear Weapons
by Elsewhere ini placed this news article in the "mental health & depression" area because bush must be crazy!.
report: nuclear weapons policy review names potential targets.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/us/03/09/nuclear.weapons/index.html.
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The Scriptures reveal that the real ruling principalities are not human at all, but are the demon overlords. Satan himself is symbolized in prophecy as a 7-headed dragon. The significance of that is that it directly corresponds with the 7-headed political beast. What that means then is that the Anglo-American ruling establishment is a direct expression of the invisible demonic rulers. Therefore, there is little doubt that America's sudden shift in first-strike nuclear policy is a reflection on Satan's own shift to the "ruin" aspect of his over all Rule-or-Ruin policy. It appears now that what is taking place is that the public and political leaders are being conditioned to accept America's use of nuclear weapons against helpless nations.
Up to the present period, global genocide has presented the demons and their lackies with insurrmountable logistical problems. Hitler, for instance, found out that killing millions of people was not that easy. It required lots of planning and manpower and was very time consuming. Now, though, through technological advances entire nations can simply be instantly vaporized with the push of a button. Chemical and biological weapons can be used with similar devastating effect. The thing is, that, it appears to be Jehovah's will to allow the world to experience the full horror of the ultimate weaponry for having foolishly embraced the Devil's rulership. One thing is certain, the detonation of merely one nuclear bomb will terrorize the world like it has never been terrorized before. / You Know
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IS THE WATCHTOWER A FALSE PROPHET?
by You Know inwhen jesus was on earth the devil approached him quoting scripture in order to tempt and entrap him.
it is no wonder then that the apostate angel would be behind the effort to use the scriptures against jehovahs people today in order to mislead them.
one of the most cunning and effective uses of scripture against us by satans agents is the charge that we are false prophets.
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You Know, you're funny . . . you know?
I am glad you think so. / You Know
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Last night's bookstudy / Questions about 1919
by Leander inlast night's bookstudy again focused on the date of 1919 and how it was proof that god's favor was directed towards the bible students.
this week the wts compared themselves to the jews when they were released from babylon.
basically they talked about how the jews were discplined by jehovah when babylon destroyed jerusalem and took them hostage.
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Have you submited your interpretation in writing to Bethel?
Hundreds of pages over the years.
Do you think they will change their teaching on this subject in line with your belief
No. Not until the tribulation commences. Then everything changes. The first become last and the last become first and what is high becomes low and all sorts of earth-shaking judgments. / You know -
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INDEED, LET THE GAMES BEGIN
by You Know inseveral enemies of the watchtower have ebulliently expressed the sentiment: let the games begin.
indeed, i too share that desire to let the games begin, so-to-speak.
but, what exactly are we to expect when once the games commence?
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I'm just not going to let you get away with saying you are here to help people, when clearly, with your condescending attitude, name calling and peppering of LOL's you prove that you are here for self aggrandizement and amusement.
So, then, we are straight about one thing, that I am not one of you. I certainly hope that clears up any confusion. LOL / You Know
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Last night's bookstudy / Questions about 1919
by Leander inlast night's bookstudy again focused on the date of 1919 and how it was proof that god's favor was directed towards the bible students.
this week the wts compared themselves to the jews when they were released from babylon.
basically they talked about how the jews were discplined by jehovah when babylon destroyed jerusalem and took them hostage.
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After the turbulent events of WWI, going into the Great Depression, followed by WWII, and then the Cold War, it seemed as if the prophecies applied to us back then. But, the farther removed we become from that time, and in view of the developments within the organization, namely corruption and error, it is evident that Jehovah's prophecies of restoration were not fulfilled upon us back then, as we now mistakenly imagine. Jesus once told his apostles that he had many things yet to tell them but that they simply couldn't bear the truth at that time. But, Jesus assured them that eventually his disciples would be guided into all of the truth. Paul showed in 1 Corinthians that Christians wouldn't have the whole picture until Christ arrived for the judgment.
What that means then is that we are facing the antitypical captivity and subsequent restoration in the future. That will be the ultimate test of our faith before Jehovah gives the earth to the meek ones. It is becoming more apparent by the day why Jehovah is going to discipline us and how it is going to come about. The Watchtower's applying all of those prophecies to 1919 merely served to seal up the truth until such time as Jehovah is ready for the apocolypse---the unveiling. / You Know
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INDEED, LET THE GAMES BEGIN
by You Know inseveral enemies of the watchtower have ebulliently expressed the sentiment: let the games begin.
indeed, i too share that desire to let the games begin, so-to-speak.
but, what exactly are we to expect when once the games commence?
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You are disgusting.
LOL. That should help to lay to rest the confusion in our young friends mind about me being buddies with apostates.
Job and Paul and Jesus did not go seeking the company of apostates and opposers, they dealt with them when they came into their lives to try and stumble them.
You are wrong. In Jesus' case anyway, it says that the holy spirit led him into the Wilderness for the express purpose that he be tempted by the Devil.We did not come to you. You came to us. You are an ass. You come here for your own self promotion. That is the most important thing to you.
The thing is, Simon's little dog and pony show forum advertises itself as being a place for all interested parties to discuss issues relevant to Jehovah's Witnesses. And that's what I am. I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses. And, yet, you say I am not welcome here. LOL It reveals what total fraud the whole thing is.You do not come to discuss matters with people who have stumbled. You come here to pick at the scabs of those whose hearts and souls have been scraped and cut by Watchtower policy and doctrine.
How can you say that? I have patiently tried to reason with you and answer questions you and others have posed to me. Besides, no one forces you to read my posts. There are many on this board that know better than to click on a post that has YK's name on it because they know by now what I am all about. If you find my posts offensive simply stop reading them.You scratch us and then laugh at us when we bleed.
My advice to you is what Christ said to Saul on the road to Damascus: "To keep kicking against the goads makes it painful for you."You are of the lowest sort of man.
I don't take any of this personal. And neither should you./ You Know
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INDEED, LET THE GAMES BEGIN
by You Know inseveral enemies of the watchtower have ebulliently expressed the sentiment: let the games begin.
indeed, i too share that desire to let the games begin, so-to-speak.
but, what exactly are we to expect when once the games commence?
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Dear Inbetween
I have been lurking on this board a long time and have seen your posts, I have been talking to my family for some time, telling them of the things I have discovered on this board, obviously they are upset, they feel this board is the worst possible place I could be, conversing with ex - JW's.
It may well be the worst possible thing, as regards your faith, and your family is rightly concerned. But the fact is, you are here. For whatever reason, you have taken it upon yourself to listen to the issues that apostates have raised. When faced with things that challenge our faith there are two courses we can take. We can capitulate, or we can resolve our issues. There is a saying that what doesn't kill me will make me stronger, so in that respect, while many have had their faith wrecked by apostasy, others who have been exposed have come away stronger in their faith. I would only hope to inspire others to "put up a hard fight for the faith." It's basically up to you. What I have found, and I have been at this over 5 years now, is that some Witnesses are inwardly looking for something to stumble over and are very grateful to find a community of fellow stumblees that serve as a support group. So it will be interesting to see how you handle it.I told them that it is not just "apostates" on this board, but people from other religions, bible researchers, atheists, even Jehovahs Witnesses.
Well, it's a mess there's no question about it. But, it is not a whole lot diferent in the truth. There are people living double lives and faithless ones and outright apostates on all levels of the organization. That's what Paul had to put up with when we said that he "was in dangers from false brothers." Many of the apostates on this board still go to meetings and associate with family, and mingle with the friends, unbeknowest to the unsuspecting and trusting brothers at the hall. And, yet, if any Witnesses opposses their deceit on the Internet they would be branded as an apostate. So, it really can be a topsy-turvy thing and confusing to those uninitiated. Jude warned Christians about apostate elders that lurked like rocks below the waterline. Some of the apostate posters on this board are currently, or in the past were, appointed servants in the congregations even though they were secretly working as enemy agents. So, that's just the reality of the situation. Going forward I think many of our dear friends are going to be shocked out of their minds when they realize that apostasy has effected the upper most levels of the organization.My mother refused to believe me. She said that there is absolutely no way a Jehovahs Witness would be talking to apostates, especially on a forum devoted to apostasy.
"Talking to apostates" is a bit misleading. That gives the impression that we are having a friendly little chat. But, take for example Job: He sat in the company of his apostate accusers for several days debating the issues at hand, he even did a fair bit of name-calling. LOL Paul had frequent encounters with apostate Judaizers, and shortly after his anointing the account says he engaged opposers in disputing. Jesus is the ultimate: He "talked" to the Devil himself. In fact, they had quite a little exchange in the wilderness, until, of course, Jesus said: "Go away Satan." On another occasion Jesus and Satan had a heated dispute about the dispositon of Moses' dead body. Yet, Paul wrote, "what harmony is there between Christ and Belial...and what portion does a faithful peron have with an unbeliever." So, to say that one of Jehovah's Witnesses is talking to apostates doesn't give the correct picture. Over the years I have given the apostate comunity a lot of grief and I have persuaded some, not many, but some, to remain in the truth. On another forum they were always scheming up something to try and silence me. So, I reject any accusation that I have any harmony or brotherly fellowship with apostates."Because if any other witnesses accidentally got on the forum and read it, they would think it was o.k to talk to apostates because this person is - this is one of the very clever techniques apostates use to get witnesses out of the truth."
So why haven't you listened to your dear mother? Instead you are talking to the very guy whom you think is a very clever apostate. The truth is, what your mom says is true, in that I am not setting the best example. But, again, you made the decision to lurk on the forum, so you bear the brunt of responsibility. So, the other side of the coin, though, is that people like yourself are going to be here with or without me. So, from my standpoint, as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, it is simply not acceptable to walk away and allow apostates to have their way with those who are my brothers and sisters. Proverbs 24:11 speaks to me when it says: "Deliver those who are being taken away to death; and those staggering to the slaughter, O may you hold them back. In case you should say: "Look! We did not know of this," will not he himself that is making an estimate of hearts discern it..."Paul said that to the weak he became weak. Well, following that principle, to the apostate, I have become an apostate. Not that I consider myself such at all, but, I have taken the time to understand their issues. I do think that the Watchtower is guilty of setting numerous stumbling blocks before the brothers, so in that respect I think we owe those who have been stumbled and who are stumbling at least something in the way of discussing the issues over which they have stumbled.
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ONLY A MATTER OF TIME
by You Know inworld renown conservative investor, warren buffet, told an audience that a nuclear attack upon the united states was a certainty.
such an attack would of course result in swift and terrible retaliation and the likey annihilation of most of the arab world and then some.
whether or not that proves to be the exact scenario that's played out, it must be admitted that the climate for the sudden outbreak of a nuclear storm has never been so favorable.
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I am curious about what you will be doing when all this happens? You make it sound as though you will be happy to have a beer and say "I told you so"
No, I am not much of a beer drinker. / You Know